Comments on: Stop the U.S. Orphan Works Act http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=stop-the-us-orphan-works-act Useful Resources For Webmasters Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:50:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Matt http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-10998 Matt Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:42:18 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-10998 I prefer the much more reasonable solution, which prevents orphan works from happening: reform copyright durations so they don't last a lifetime plus 100 years. I prefer the much more reasonable solution, which prevents orphan works from happening: reform copyright durations so they don’t last a lifetime plus 100 years.

]]> By: Fed up with stupid people http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-10989 Fed up with stupid people Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:29:14 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-10989 It seem most of miss the orphan part of the bill. Your copy rights are still protected if you are linked to it. If you are a blogger and are still posting you are protected. if you have are on a web site you still use you are protected. Orphan work is when there is no trace of the original poster. if you find that your work has been used with out your permission and they claim orphan act, as long as you can find that work on a site you use, you can still sue them. and as for the angry artist posting, everything has been done. there is nothing new in art or writing. It seem most of miss the orphan part of the bill. Your copy rights are still protected if you are linked to it. If you are a blogger and are still posting you are protected. if you have are on a web site you still use you are protected. Orphan work is when there is no trace of the original poster. if you find that your work has been used with out your permission and they claim orphan act, as long as you can find that work on a site you use, you can still sue them.
and as for the angry artist posting, everything has been done. there is nothing new in art or writing.

]]> By: Save • Friday Knights http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-8963 Save • Friday Knights Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:44:01 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-8963 [...] http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/ [...] [...] http://www.webmaster-source.co.....works-act/ [...]

]]> By: Angry Artist http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-8950 Angry Artist Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:23:30 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-8950 I don't care if someone can't find the right to an Orphaned work. MAKE SOME NEW STUFF, STOP LEACHING OFF THE PAST! PAY SOMEONE TO MAKE SOMETHING NEW! I am a new Illustrator. I don't have ANY money to spend on copyright. I need free protection! This law would force me from posting my artwork online for public view! This is going to destroy the release of new information that can be viewed but not sold by the public! I'm so angry... I'm writing the government officials. I don't care if someone can't find the right to an Orphaned work.

MAKE SOME NEW STUFF, STOP LEACHING OFF THE PAST!

PAY SOMEONE TO MAKE SOMETHING NEW!

I am a new Illustrator. I don't have ANY money to spend on copyright.
I need free protection! This law would force me from posting my artwork online for public view!

This is going to destroy the release of new information that can be viewed but not sold by the public!

I'm so angry… I'm writing the government officials.

]]> By: Copyright, Corporations and Culture : StevenClark.com.au http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-8842 Copyright, Corporations and Culture : StevenClark.com.au Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:33:53 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-8842 [...] we’re being confronted with the Orphan Works Act which means in the United States (and eventually anywhere that emulates them like Australia) [...] [...] we’re being confronted with the Orphan Works Act which means in the United States (and eventually anywhere that emulates them like Australia) [...]

]]> By: redwall_hp http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-8635 redwall_hp Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:35:43 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-8635 No thank you. I won't cripple myself by using a lesser tool, just to attempt to send a message to an otherwise good company that's only supporting a bill. Even a million people ceasing to use Google (which is quite a feat, when "Google" is synonymous with "search") would not be a dent enough for anyone to care. No thank you. I won't cripple myself by using a lesser tool, just to attempt to send a message to an otherwise good company that's only supporting a bill. Even a million people ceasing to use Google (which is quite a feat, when "Google" is synonymous with "search") would not be a dent enough for anyone to care.

]]> By: Tom http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-8634 Tom Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:05:23 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-8634 Perhaps we can do something to stop the Orphan works bill through the courts. Hopefully so but money and lobbying are very powerful and a lot of large companies have a strong vested interest in the version being proposed. There is a need for a version of the orphan works bill and Google among others are big supporters of the proposal. However everyone agrees they are going too far in their demands. They aren't listening to the creators objections and the extent of the bill being proposed plus Googles recent grabbing of things that are not theirs (tied down), makes me think that we might be partly to blame again. By using their search engine we are giving them power. So for the hell of it, if you are using Firefox as a browser, you can delete Google as a search engine (which will be noticed). It's like voting. Bing is owned by Microsoft who are also pushing the bill through. There are a list of search engines that you can install listed here: [<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:4/cat:all?sort=name|leo://plh/https%3A*3*3addons%2Emozilla%2Eorg*3en-US*3firefox*3browse*3type%3A4*3cat%3Aall%3Fsort%3Dname/AW" target="_blank">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/t...</a> N5?_t=tracking_disc ] It's possible to delete both Google and Bing from your search engine selection which would definitely get google etc, to sit up and pay attention. Goodsearch is a nice alternative <a href="http://www.goodsearch.com/" target="_blank">http://www.goodsearch.com/</a> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9674" target="_blank">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/96...</a> This is a passively dynamic way of sending a message. It doesn't cost anything, the search engines are easy to install and a change is as good as a rest. I've been using Good search for a week and it's fine. Cheers Tom Feel free to pass this on. Perhaps we can do something to stop the Orphan works bill through the courts. Hopefully so but money and lobbying are very powerful and a lot of large companies have a strong vested interest in the version being proposed.

There is a need for a version of the orphan works bill and Google among others are big supporters of the proposal. However everyone agrees they are going too far in their demands.

They aren't listening to the creators objections and the extent of the bill being proposed plus Googles recent grabbing of things that are not theirs (tied down), makes me think that we might be partly to blame again. By using their search engine we are giving them power.

So for the hell of it, if you are using Firefox as a browser, you can delete Google as a search engine (which will be noticed). It's like voting.

Bing is owned by Microsoft who are also pushing the bill through. There are a list of search engines that you can install listed here:

[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/t... N5?_t=tracking_disc ]

It's possible to delete both Google and Bing from your search engine selection which would definitely get google etc, to sit up and pay attention.

Goodsearch is a nice alternative
http://www.goodsearch.com/

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/96...

This is a passively dynamic way of sending a message. It doesn't cost anything, the search engines are easy to install and a change is as good as a rest. I've been using Good search for a week and it's fine.

Cheers
Tom

Feel free to pass this on.

]]> By: New Orphan Works Bill This Week? | Grind EFX http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-8633 New Orphan Works Bill This Week? | Grind EFX Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:01:02 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-8633 [...] once news of this bill hit the internet, it set off a whirlwind of FUD* Â from independent artists and musicians, egged on by this provocative video released on YouTube. [...]

]]> By: Kenton Smith http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-8585 Kenton Smith Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:39:49 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-8585 What if someone sees an illustration on my portfolio site and innocently copies it for their vacation blog. They shouldn't do it, but we all know this happens. They stop updating the blog, time goes by and they change their email. Someone looking for a picture for their project comes across my image and can't find contact information for anyone connected to the blog? They send a few emails, maybe look up a name, no luck. According to this law they can now take my image and do anything they want. I don’t think someone should be able to do that after a feeble attempt to find the owner. What if they put it on a product and make money, worse than that, what if they take the image and use it in connection something I don't agree with? Sure maybe the copyright laws are too long, but then the famous painters grandkids that can still make some money licensing the Grandfathers paintings might disagree. This is just another example of how creativity is not valued. What if someone sees an illustration on my portfolio site and innocently copies it for their vacation blog. They shouldn't do it, but we all know this happens. They stop updating the blog, time goes by and they change their email. Someone looking for a picture for their project comes across my image and can't find contact information for anyone connected to the blog? They send a few emails, maybe look up a name, no luck. According to this law they can now take my image and do anything they want. I don’t think someone should be able to do that after a feeble attempt to find the owner. What if they put it on a product and make money, worse than that, what if they take the image and use it in connection something I don't agree with?

Sure maybe the copyright laws are too long, but then the famous painters grandkids that can still make some money licensing the Grandfathers paintings might disagree.

This is just another example of how creativity is not valued.

]]> By: redwall_hp http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-8531 redwall_hp Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:30:07 +0000 http://www.webmaster-source.com/?p=1730#comment-8531 "You cannot put a photo of your grandparents who just arrived on Ellis Island in your genealogy project? Because some dead photographer who doesn't care, or even remember, took the photos?" Actually, you probably can. If the photo was taken before 1930-something-or-other it's public domain. Back then the copyright term was much shorter. We don't need the Orphan Works Act, we need reform of draconian copyright law. We need better fair use laws, shorter copyright terms, etc. Mark Twain had some good views on the subject. (You should benefit from your work, and your children, but your grandchildren should have to do something for themselves.) That kindergarten class photo? Copyright law should allow you to use it for noncommercial uses. "You cannot put a photo of your grandparents who just arrived on Ellis Island in your genealogy project? Because some dead photographer who doesn't care, or even remember, took the photos?"

Actually, you probably can. If the photo was taken before 1930-something-or-other it's public domain. Back then the copyright term was much shorter.

We don't need the Orphan Works Act, we need reform of draconian copyright law. We need better fair use laws, shorter copyright terms, etc. Mark Twain had some good views on the subject. (You should benefit from your work, and your children, but your grandchildren should have to do something for themselves.) That kindergarten class photo? Copyright law should allow you to use it for noncommercial uses.

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