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		<title>By: Save &#124; Friday Knights</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Save &#124; Friday Knights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 20:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/" rel="nofollow">http://www.webmaster-source.co.....works-act/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rescuing Orphan Works &#171; IP in the Digital Age</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rescuing Orphan Works &#171; IP in the Digital Age]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2014 21:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] to track down the owner of the rights to a particular painting or photograph. Notwithstanding the alarmists writing about the dangers of the Orphan Works Act and insisting that it will strip artists of their ability to hold copyrights, the Act seems [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to track down the owner of the rights to a particular painting or photograph. Notwithstanding the alarmists writing about the dangers of the Orphan Works Act and insisting that it will strip artists of their ability to hold copyrights, the Act seems [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>https://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-21047</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to chime in and ask you to correct much of the information that you have in this article. The copyright duration is not life +100. In fact, for most works its life of the author +70 years (I agree, this is a long time, and yes, as far as I can tell, much of it is from the large entities like Disney wanting to hold onto their copyrights).

The &quot;diligent search&quot; aspect is a HUGE factor you left out, as Dan B. Lee and others have pointed out. Its not as if someone can just use your work. They must first do a search for the owner (most blog posts and internet posts already have the author identified right on the work&#039;s page) THEN, if the owner cannot be ascertained, then the author can use the work in a very limited fashion. SO LONG AS, they attribute the use of the copyrighted work in any derivative works. 

Additionally, IF the bill was the be enacted into law, it would not require any copyright registrations, that would be a violation of the United States participation in many international copyright and IP law treaties (e.g., WIPO, Berne Convention, TRIPS agreement, etc.) (IP = Intellectual Property, btw) 

This is actually a good thing for the little guys, it would allow you to use works you cannot find the author to (i.e., that WWII photo you found in grandpa&#039;s attic), that are still in copyright, and not be liable for heavy copyright infringement liability. It does not completely alleviate users of &quot;orphans&quot; from monetary liability, but it keeps the penalties WAY down, so long as you can prove a &quot;diligent search&quot; and attribution.

Finally, the US copyright cost to register a work (which remember, is NOT required, BUT does have advantages if you ever have to litigate (i.e., take them to court) against someone&#039;s infringement of your work) is $40 per work. But again this is NOT required by law, as of 1976, as soon as you put pen to paper, or finger to keyboard, or any other &quot;tangible&quot; medium, your work is protected by copyright law (so long as its original, and doesn&#039;t infringe on anyone else&#039;s copyright)

It would be beneficial to all of us if authors of these articles would to their own diligent searches before calling the masses to oppose legislation that would actually help most &quot;little guys&quot;

Here is a good summary of the US copyright&#039;s office report on Orphan works, (the full report is over 200 pages long):

http://www.edwardsamuels.com/copyright/beyond/articles/Orphan%20Works.htm#**]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to chime in and ask you to correct much of the information that you have in this article. The copyright duration is not life +100. In fact, for most works its life of the author +70 years (I agree, this is a long time, and yes, as far as I can tell, much of it is from the large entities like Disney wanting to hold onto their copyrights).</p>
<p>The &#8220;diligent search&#8221; aspect is a HUGE factor you left out, as Dan B. Lee and others have pointed out. Its not as if someone can just use your work. They must first do a search for the owner (most blog posts and internet posts already have the author identified right on the work&#8217;s page) THEN, if the owner cannot be ascertained, then the author can use the work in a very limited fashion. SO LONG AS, they attribute the use of the copyrighted work in any derivative works. </p>
<p>Additionally, IF the bill was the be enacted into law, it would not require any copyright registrations, that would be a violation of the United States participation in many international copyright and IP law treaties (e.g., WIPO, Berne Convention, TRIPS agreement, etc.) (IP = Intellectual Property, btw) </p>
<p>This is actually a good thing for the little guys, it would allow you to use works you cannot find the author to (i.e., that WWII photo you found in grandpa&#8217;s attic), that are still in copyright, and not be liable for heavy copyright infringement liability. It does not completely alleviate users of &#8220;orphans&#8221; from monetary liability, but it keeps the penalties WAY down, so long as you can prove a &#8220;diligent search&#8221; and attribution.</p>
<p>Finally, the US copyright cost to register a work (which remember, is NOT required, BUT does have advantages if you ever have to litigate (i.e., take them to court) against someone&#8217;s infringement of your work) is $40 per work. But again this is NOT required by law, as of 1976, as soon as you put pen to paper, or finger to keyboard, or any other &#8220;tangible&#8221; medium, your work is protected by copyright law (so long as its original, and doesn&#8217;t infringe on anyone else&#8217;s copyright)</p>
<p>It would be beneficial to all of us if authors of these articles would to their own diligent searches before calling the masses to oppose legislation that would actually help most &#8220;little guys&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is a good summary of the US copyright&#8217;s office report on Orphan works, (the full report is over 200 pages long):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.edwardsamuels.com/copyright/beyond/articles/Orphan%20Works.htm#**" rel="nofollow">http://www.edwardsamuels.com/c.....rks.htm#**</a></p>
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		<title>By: Orphan Works &#8211; British Style &#124; New Jersey Photographer Rich Green</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orphan Works &#8211; British Style &#124; New Jersey Photographer Rich Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I understand that some old photographic images truly are &#8220;orphaned&#8221; but it shouldn&#8217;t be so easy for the user to grab an image without any substantive background checks, and then if discovered, be slapped with minor use charges. Our ability to protective our &#8220;registered with the US Copyright office&#8221; work would be greatly diminished. Much more info here [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I understand that some old photographic images truly are &#8220;orphaned&#8221; but it shouldn&#8217;t be so easy for the user to grab an image without any substantive background checks, and then if discovered, be slapped with minor use charges. Our ability to protective our &#8220;registered with the US Copyright office&#8221; work would be greatly diminished. Much more info here [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Powell</title>
		<link>https://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-11394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Powell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 03:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and regarding &quot;Copyright law should allow you to use it for noncommercial uses.&quot; It already does allow that in some ways.  There are &quot;fair use&quot; rights.  Aside from that, if you use something you don&#039;t have the rights to, if you are not making any money from it, the owner could ask you to stop using it, but that&#039;s about it. As long as it doesn&#039;t hurt the copyright owner, and as long as the infringer is not making any money from it&#039;s use, there is very little that can be done.  No lawyer will take that case as there is no money involved.  Hell, I have a copyright infringement case where a guy is using my work that he was supposed to pay me $1,200 for. But even with that case, I can&#039;t get anyone to represent me because it&#039;s small potatoes for lawyers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and regarding &#8220;Copyright law should allow you to use it for noncommercial uses.&#8221; It already does allow that in some ways.  There are &#8220;fair use&#8221; rights.  Aside from that, if you use something you don&#8217;t have the rights to, if you are not making any money from it, the owner could ask you to stop using it, but that&#8217;s about it. As long as it doesn&#8217;t hurt the copyright owner, and as long as the infringer is not making any money from it&#8217;s use, there is very little that can be done.  No lawyer will take that case as there is no money involved.  Hell, I have a copyright infringement case where a guy is using my work that he was supposed to pay me $1,200 for. But even with that case, I can&#8217;t get anyone to represent me because it&#8217;s small potatoes for lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Powell</title>
		<link>https://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-11393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Powell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 03:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the last poster &quot;fed up with stupid&quot; (well except for that last line).  This bill isn&#039;t all doom and gloom. I&#039;m all for copyright protection, and I don&#039;t like this bill one bit, however based on everything I&#039;ve read on this act (from reliable sources) the main issue isn&#039;t so much about sticking it to the little guy.  You&#039;ll still have nearly all of the protection you originally had.  The main change here is that it allows people to use your work if a reasonable effort has been made to find the creator.  Unfortunately, &quot;reasonable effort&quot; is a very broad term, and many believe (myself included) it will become a loophole allowing companies to CLAIM they made a reasonable effort, when in fact they have not.  Of course the bill supporters say the courts will make them show ample evidence of this effort, but big companies and big lawyers find ways to make up for (or completely make up) a lack of documentation.

I understand why some people want this bill passed... and for the honest few, I do agree they should have some way to use some things if they truly HAVE put a reasonable effort into finding the owner, and more importantly, if the work can not be re-created.  i.e. historically significant items or something like that.  But I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s written like that, and I DO think the law will be taken advantage of, so I truly hope this bill fails.  

Regarding &quot;Angry Artists&quot; statement &quot;This law would force me from posting my artwork online for public view!&quot;
That&#039;s just silly.  If you don&#039;t bother to register your work now, you already don&#039;t have much protection.  It&#039;s not expensive to register your work (you can register an entire collection as a single body work, i.e. call it 2007-2010, and register everything for one fee)  If you&#039;re not registering it anyhow (whether this passes or not) your level of protection won&#039;t change much.  It&#039;ll be minimal either way.  

I&#039;m an artist too, and I&#039;m also low on funds, but if you can afford the computer you&#039;re using to complain about this bill, you can afford the $35 to register your work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the last poster &#8220;fed up with stupid&#8221; (well except for that last line).  This bill isn&#8217;t all doom and gloom. I&#8217;m all for copyright protection, and I don&#8217;t like this bill one bit, however based on everything I&#8217;ve read on this act (from reliable sources) the main issue isn&#8217;t so much about sticking it to the little guy.  You&#8217;ll still have nearly all of the protection you originally had.  The main change here is that it allows people to use your work if a reasonable effort has been made to find the creator.  Unfortunately, &#8220;reasonable effort&#8221; is a very broad term, and many believe (myself included) it will become a loophole allowing companies to CLAIM they made a reasonable effort, when in fact they have not.  Of course the bill supporters say the courts will make them show ample evidence of this effort, but big companies and big lawyers find ways to make up for (or completely make up) a lack of documentation.</p>
<p>I understand why some people want this bill passed&#8230; and for the honest few, I do agree they should have some way to use some things if they truly HAVE put a reasonable effort into finding the owner, and more importantly, if the work can not be re-created.  i.e. historically significant items or something like that.  But I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s written like that, and I DO think the law will be taken advantage of, so I truly hope this bill fails.  </p>
<p>Regarding &#8220;Angry Artists&#8221; statement &#8220;This law would force me from posting my artwork online for public view!&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s just silly.  If you don&#8217;t bother to register your work now, you already don&#8217;t have much protection.  It&#8217;s not expensive to register your work (you can register an entire collection as a single body work, i.e. call it 2007-2010, and register everything for one fee)  If you&#8217;re not registering it anyhow (whether this passes or not) your level of protection won&#8217;t change much.  It&#8217;ll be minimal either way.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m an artist too, and I&#8217;m also low on funds, but if you can afford the computer you&#8217;re using to complain about this bill, you can afford the $35 to register your work.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I prefer the much more reasonable solution, which prevents orphan works from happening: reform copyright durations so they don&#039;t last a lifetime plus 100 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the much more reasonable solution, which prevents orphan works from happening: reform copyright durations so they don&#8217;t last a lifetime plus 100 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Fed up with stupid people</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fed up with stupid people]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seem most of miss the orphan part of the bill.  Your copy rights are still protected if you are linked to it.  If you are a blogger and are still posting you are protected. if you have are on a web site you still use you are protected.  Orphan work is when there is no trace of the original poster.  if you find that your work has been used with out your permission and they claim orphan act, as long as you can find that work on a site you use, you can still sue them.
and as for the angry artist posting, everything has been done. there is nothing new in art or writing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seem most of miss the orphan part of the bill.  Your copy rights are still protected if you are linked to it.  If you are a blogger and are still posting you are protected. if you have are on a web site you still use you are protected.  Orphan work is when there is no trace of the original poster.  if you find that your work has been used with out your permission and they claim orphan act, as long as you can find that work on a site you use, you can still sue them.<br />
and as for the angry artist posting, everything has been done. there is nothing new in art or writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Save &#8226; Friday Knights</title>
		<link>https://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/#comment-8963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Save &#8226; Friday Knights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/01/14/stop-the-us-orphan-works-act/" rel="nofollow">http://www.webmaster-source.co.....works-act/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Artist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angry Artist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t care if someone can&#039;t find the right to an Orphaned work. 
 
MAKE SOME NEW STUFF, STOP LEACHING OFF THE PAST! 
 
PAY SOMEONE TO MAKE SOMETHING NEW! 
 
I am a new Illustrator. I don&#039;t have ANY money to spend on copyright. 
I need free protection! This law would force me from posting my artwork online for public view! 
 
This is going to destroy the release of new information that can be viewed but not sold by the public! 
 
I&#039;m so angry... I&#039;m writing the government officials. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t care if someone can&#039;t find the right to an Orphaned work. </p>
<p>MAKE SOME NEW STUFF, STOP LEACHING OFF THE PAST! </p>
<p>PAY SOMEONE TO MAKE SOMETHING NEW! </p>
<p>I am a new Illustrator. I don&#039;t have ANY money to spend on copyright.<br />
I need free protection! This law would force me from posting my artwork online for public view! </p>
<p>This is going to destroy the release of new information that can be viewed but not sold by the public! </p>
<p>I&#039;m so angry&#8230; I&#039;m writing the government officials. </p>
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